Not familiar with any of those films... if I need to watch a really violently bloody film, I'll choose the ones that are so corny and over the top you can't help laughing your arse off. You know, like when someone loses an arm and the blood kind of pees out of the armhole in a stream... um actually that was in a Monty Python film (first prize goes to who guesses which film). Anyhow for me it really depends on how it's done. There were some pretty gut-wrenching bloody battle scenes in Braveheart for instance, I thought they were fantastically done. However I get the idea that's probably not the type of bloody mess you're talking about.
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